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[INTERVIEW] Talking ‘Pretty Little Liars: Summer School’ With the Cast and Crew
Recently, I had the wonderful opportunity to watch the first half of Pretty Little Liars: Summer School, the much-anticipated follow-up to Original Sin. I was a huge fan of Original Sin, so when I was offered a spot in the Summer School press junket, I jumped right on that. I had the chance to sit down and chat with Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, Lindsay Calhoon Bring, and Annabeth Gish for a few minutes. We had a wonderful conversation!
An Interview with Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, Lindsay Calhoon Bring and Annabeth Gish
Brendan Jesus: Like Original Sin, Summer School is chock full of references and homages, from a very great visual homage to The Exorcist III hallway scene to a passing comment about Randy Meeks and Scream 2. Since you explicitly mentioned Randy, I’m curious if you took any of his ‘sequel’ notes into the writer’s room.
Lindsay Calhoon Bring: You know what, in our writer’s room, if we’re ever taking a break–we had a TV in the writer’s room–one of our favorite things to do was watch a trailer or watch an old horror movie. One of the scenes we pulled up for Tabby was Randy walking everyone through the rules of horror movies. We thought it was so Tabby’s energy. Later in the season, Tabby really is our sort of cross between Dawson and Randy Meeks, she kind of walks us through a list of suspects, who they could be and why, and it definitely is in line, and tone, with that Randy Meeks energy for sure.
BJ: Throughout the first few episodes, it’s clear Imogen has sort of a crisis of character. With as much as you can go into this, did her character mirror the process of creating this season? By that I mean, did you feel like Summer School needed to exist as its own entity? To exist as its own grand idea?
Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa: It’s funny, you’re totally circling something Lindsay and I spent a lot of time talking about before starting the writer’s room. We definitely wanted the second season, the sequel season, to feel different, to have a different theme, vibe, and horror villain. But, we 100% wanted to continue the emotional storylines from Season 1 and to not do a hard reset. We said, whatever stories we’re telling in Season 2, we cannot forget the trauma the girls went through in Season 1. They were terrorized by a guy in a mask with a knife! Specifically that Imogen and Tabby were dealing with the shared trauma of sexual assault. We didn’t want to say, “They’re all good, fresh start.” The secret thematic story of Season 2 was these girls working through their traumas. We wanted to give them someone to talk to, so who better than Dr. Sullivan from the OG Pretty Little Liars? It was finding that balance of new story, new villain, new franchise, but keeping that emotional and thematic continuity from Season 1, which we loved doing! We loved the challenge of that.
BJ: When it comes to creating projects, reality will always differ from expectation. For the three of you, what do you think will scare audiences most? For me, I’ve already had some nightmares about the masks.
Annabeth Gish: That mask did a number on me, I’ll say. When I had to shoot that scene, and it was in that sort of floating head form, it was terrifying! And I’ve been around some horror sets. That one crept into my dreamscape as well.
Lindsay Calhoon Bring: A classic for me in horror, and we’re all such huge horror fans. It’s my sort of anxiety dream, which circles Imogen, right? We know she’s struggling with her mental health, and our villain is preying on that. But a constant anxiety dream for me is being chased. And I think there’s nothing better in a horror movie, especially a summer horror movie, than to have an epic terrifying chase. I think we deliver on that really amazingly in Episode 5 with Maia Reficco’s barefoot chase in the woods. That really turned out amazing and is pretty pulse-pounding. I hope that it will scare people!
Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa: To your point, and what we mentioned a little bit when we were coming up with Bloody Rose, and knowing this was sequel season, we were inspired by horror movie sequels. One of them, that really inspired the look of Bloody Rose, was the character of Julia Cotton in Hellraiser II. No skin on her face, in a blue diaphanous evening gown, wafting through a hellscape. There’s something about someone who’s had their face skin, with their face wrapped and covered in blood with a crown of thorns–that felt very apocalyptic and primal. That idea, the mother as a primal destructive force, is wrathful and terrifying.
Annabeth Gish: And pagan, almost!
A big thanks to Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, Lindsay Calhoon Bring, and Annabeth Gish for taking the time to chat with me, and if you don’t have Summer School on your radar, go binge the first season on Max! You won’t want to miss this season.
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Brooklyn Horror Film Festival 2025: The Creep Tapes Season 2
In 2014, Mark Duplass and Patrick Brice created magic with their mumblegore-adjacent found footage epic Creep. Three years later, this dreamy duo brought us the second installment of their creepy killer. Seven years would pass until Josef (Mark Duplass) would creep back into our daily lives with six truly terrifying episodes of The Creep Tapes. It would only be a short time until a second season of The Creep Tapes was announced…and even less time for a third season! The best experience I had at the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival was seeing the first three episodes of The Creep Tapes Season 2.
The Creep Tapes Season 2 Creeps Back Into the Spotlight
The Creep Tapes Season 1 was fairly straightforward throughout. It was a fantastic season (that I loved), but the majority of it was more of the same. Josef finds a victim (through various means), plays nice (and weird), goes after victim, and death. The season finale, “Mom (and Albert)”, was the first time we really got some (what seems to be) true background into Josef. From personal conversations, that episode was hit or miss. (I loved it, the dude hung dong!)
Upon hearing the news of Seasons 2 and 3, I was left wondering, will we get more background, OR will it just dive into Josef’s maniacal madness? While the first three episodes of Season 2 don’t do much to give us too much information about Josef’s background, it does up the ante considerably. Season 2 makes clear that Mark Duplass and Patrick Brice have grandiose ideas that they’re only scratching the surface of.
The Creep Tapes: S2 E1 “Joseph”
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but what happens when the imitation is just… wrong? Josef finds himself in the sights of Joseph (David Dastmalchian), who is looking for a videographer to film a video for his unborn son, as Joseph has been diagnosed with cancer. Sound familiar?
How can someone possibly replicate the insane scenario Josef concocted in Creep? It can’t just be a coincidence—and it’s not. We come to learn that Josef has been doing something with his tapes (and films) that allows Joseph to view his work. Unfortunately for Joseph, the wrong man answered his ad.
This piece of information is crucial for understanding who (and what) Josef is. At points, he seems mentally ill, misguided, a man who just gets too damn lucky sometimes. The information gleaned reveals a much more careless, while still sophisticated, man who believes he’s creating art (of sorts). What’s the purpose of creating chaos in the modern age of technology if you can’t share it with other degenerates?
The “flip of the script” in Season 2 Episode 1 “Joseph” is a heart-racing 20-ish minutes of anticipation. I didn’t separate my butt from the edge of my seat until the credits rolled. But it’s with the casting of Joseph that the true magic of the Season 2 premiere excels. Who else can outmaniac a maniac? Of course, it has to be David Dastmalchian.
The Creep Tapes: S2 E2 “Mark”
Mark (Robert Longstreet) wakes up in a concrete room, his leg chained to the ground. A TV sits atop a table. An empty tub sits across the room. Someone lies still underneath a blanket, with a chain coming out of the bottom. And Josef accompanies Mark, leg chains and all. What could go wrong?
One of the most interesting things about Josef as a character is his ability to showcase his flaws, something that is extremely apparent in Season 2, Episodes 2 and 3. Nearly everything that can go wrong for Josef goes wrong. The reason it goes wrong is because of a simple oversight on Josef’s part. And it’s kind of heartening to see. Nearly every time we see Josef in action, he has a general grasp of his overall plan. He knows, more or less, how his targets will react, and his incredible improv skills allow him to course correct when necessary.
“Mark” just goes off the rails in ways Josef could never imagine.
Season 2, Episode 2 is Duplass and Brice’s nod at the Saw franchise. And, if anything other than a few laughs, solidifies the intense planning and expertise that goes into a John Kramer game. One simple oversight can cause a highly crafted plan to fall apart at the seams. To boot, “Mark” is one of the funniest pieces of horror media I have ever seen. It begs the question, what if an absolute dufus was put in a Saw film?
And don’t worry, bloodhounds, there’s gore aplenty!
The Creep Tapes: S2 E3 “Wes”
Wes (Diego Josef) finds himself taking a job to help Josef film a house-flipping show’s pilot episode. But night descends, and Wes realizes that they’re in the middle of nowhere. Wes’s attempted escape from Josef leads to an unfortunate run-in with law enforcement. Oh boy, how will he get out of this one?!
Even the greatest of franchises will bottom out at some point. Much of what we’ve seen Josef do involves a certain amount of suspension of disbelief. HOW is there not at least a Reddit thread about filmmakers/videographers who have gone missing after answering Craigslist ads? There is no way a 20/20 wouldn’t have been made about these killings if they were real. I mean, just look at how many tapes we see in the opening. Josef is talented at what he does, but everyone slips up eventually.
“Wes” brought me to a point where I was unable to suspend my disbelief. When AMERICAN police see someone moving a potentially dead body and don’t immediately cuff and detain them, you’re asking a bit too much. The crux of this episode revolves around a repeated word: “professionalism.” I get that it’s supposed to shine a light on how unprofessional the police are in this scenario, but it’s a step too far.
What I will say is that it’s a fun angle to take. We’re watching this killer that we’ve seen commit nearly 10 murders, and there are more we haven’t, interact face to face with the police. How will he get out of this sticky situation? I just don’t believe the way it is handled is grounded in a reality that would ever make sense. The chemistry between Wes and Josef, though, is some of the best in the entire franchise. They play off of each other incredibly well, and it makes you wish “Wes” were a feature-length film character instead of an episode character.
A Bold New Chapter for The Creep Tapes
Overall, the first three episodes of The Creep Tapes Season 2 were an overall blast. Even with the issues I had throughout “Wes”, I was entertained the entire time. “Joseph” and “Mark” are contenders for the best episodes of the entire series (and maybe even best entries in the entire franchise). I love seeing Mark Duplass and Patrick Brice spreading their wings to take Josef in different directions. They find ways to keep the product feeling original while still paying direct homage to horror properties beloved by the masses. If these are the first three episodes of Season 2, I think we’re in for a real treat with the final three.
The Creep Tapes Season 2 premieres November 14 on Shudder and AMC+.
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Is ‘It: Welcome to Derry’ Worth the Watch?
I loved It (2017) and politely refuse to talk about It Chapter Two. So, I have been impatiently waiting for It: Welcome to Derry to drop. I leaned in as soon as it was announced that Andy Muschietti, Barbara Muschietti, and Jason Fuchs were developing the prequel series for HBO Max. So, while I was denied screeners at the eleventh hour, I still tuned in Sunday night to see if it would live up to the hype. I found myself overall pleasantly surprised, despite having a couple of questions, comments, and concerns.
What’s Going On In Derry?
‘The Pilot’ takes place in 1962. We meet Matt Clements (Miles Ekhardt), a kid with a pacifier habit who loves to sneak into movies. He is caught in a showing of The Music Man and has to leave the venue. He makes the mistake of hitchhiking with a family that turns out to be the last time he is seen. The demonic car ride sets us up to know that kids are in danger in this series, and Matty is clearly not our lead.
Matty’s friends Teddy Uris (Mikkal Karim-Fidler) and Phil Malkin (Jack Molloy Legault) are still reeling from his disappearance. Teddy seems to be taking it the worst as everyone in town refuses to talk to him about it. Another kid taking this disappearance hard is Lilly Bainbridge (Clara Stack), who was on the brink of a possible friendship with Matt. She also has her own baggage, so when Matt’s voice and fingers make their way into her drain, she connects with his friends.
This leads them to form a kid gang to investigate, which includes Susie (Hunter Storm Baker) and Ronnie Grogan (Amanda Christie). As an audience, you assume this will be our core group. However, you know what they say about assuming and It: Welcome to Derry makes a bloody ass out of you and me. The ending is shocking, and the reason I will be tuning into the second episode.
Who’s Who?
While we know Bill Skarsgård will be reprising the role of Pennywise, we do not see him in the first episode. Which is smart because you have to leave the audience wanting more. However, we do meet Leroy Hanlon (Jovan Adepo), who is the grandfather of Mike Hanlon. So, that’s a huge connection to The Loser’s Club we all know from the book and films. He’s experiencing racism at a military base and is ambushed by a weird group that he and his friend fend off. His story was sort of sidelined, so I’m waiting to see how it fully intertwines with what the kids got into. It’s still early yet, and whatever we think we know might not be the gospel. However, his wife Charlotte Hanlon (Taylour Paige) will also be getting screen time. I’m happy to see this because most King adaptations become overwhelmingly white cast affairs.
Speaking of Black characters from the Stephen King Universe getting more to do, young Dick Hallorann (Chris Chalk) will be involved in the story in some way. Constant Readers will remember Dick from The Shining. He was the Black character who also had “the shine’ and saved Danny and Wendy from the Overlook Hotel. In my least favorite adaptation, he is played by the late and great Scatman Crothers. Stanley Kubrick decided to axe the Black psychic character and perpetuate a trope with his version of King’s tale. A choice I still side-eye, and why I love to see this character in other iterations of the tale. So, I am very excited to see how he will fit into It: Welcome to Derry.
Am I Feeling It: Welcome to Derry?
As a former Constant Reader and a lover of horror television, I’m an easy target for this show. While I think the pilot had a couple of things that don’t quite make sense (yet), I’m still leaning in. I am here for the vicious way children are dispatched, the surprising deaths, and for the expansion of one Stephen King’s most iconic baddies. So, I have a date with It: Welcome to Derry this weekend. I want to see where it goes now that most of the cast we were introduced to is dead. I also want to see Pennywise on the small screen to see if Skarsgård can creep us out again. More importantly, it is a fun and intriguing story, and that goes a long way with me.
It’s too soon to say if It: Welcome to Derry will be one of the best shows of the year. However, I have hope that it’s ramping up to be a good time. If it avoids falling into fan service territory and tightens up some of the story, this could be a damn good time. There is so much potential in this pilot. I cannot help rooting for it to find its footing and surprise us all. Sadly, hope is a dangerous thing, so I am so nervous it could be another fumble down the line. All I know is I plan to show up for the next two episodes and see where this all goes.
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