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Interview with the Vampire: Queer Love & Vampires on TV

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An age-old question has always been, “If you could live forever, would you?” As a queer person of color, I have always found the concept of immortality fascinating. Would being immortal improve things, or would my life remain unchanged? Would I lose my humanity as centuries pass? Having been a devoted reader of Anne Rice for many years, I became convinced that the only way to achieve immortality and find answers to my questions was to become a vampire. Imagine watching this version of Interview with the Vampire as a TV show for the first time. Like a human about to become food for the damned, I was enamored.

The series’ setup was masterfully done. Daniel Molloy, a gay man and reporter, is in the home of Louis de Pointe du Lac, a vampire. Louis introduces Daniel to his assistant, Rashid, who we later discover is the vampire Armand and Louis’ new lover. The inclusion of several queer main characters in this show was a refreshing change.

Daniel is the conductor, guiding the narrative with probing questions in every episode. The story unfolds in modern times and throughout the past, as Louis revisits his memories when Daniel seeks answers. Most questions focus on Louis’ maker and first male lover, the former human French aristocrat-turned-vampire Lestat de Lioncourt. The transitions connecting the story between periods flow seamlessly, like blood flowing through the veins to the heart and brain. See? This series had such a profound impact on me that it inspired me to become a poet.

Interview with the Vampire: Louis and Lestat

Interview with the Vampire: A Queer Interracial Love Story

If you read the Anne Rice books, you know how Lestat fell in love with Louis and transformed him into his immortal partner. In subtext, anyway. The show not only embraced the idea that these two characters were a couple but also explored all aspects of their relationship: the good, the bad, the human soul, and the vampire spirit. Oh, and Louis is a Black man in the TV adaptation, making them a queer interracial couple. How’s that for a bit of razzle-dazzle?  

“You could be a lot of things in New Orleans, but an openly gay Negro man was not one of them.” Louis’s words imprinted on me. He was hurting from internal struggle during his early days as a fledgling. Accepting yourself as queer when you have been living life as a straight person must have been jarring, especially at that time. Lestat knew what it was like coming to terms with queerness and vampirehood. However, I am not entirely convinced he understood intersectionality, or maybe he didn’t care. 

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Louis soon lost his family after he was turned. They realized he was different and even implied that he had consorted with the devil. His family also expressed concerns about his relationship with Lestat, particularly his deeply religious brother, Paul. For those who come from a POC ethnic background, being queer can be a death sentence. Some communities would rather accept you as a bloodsucking demon than as a person living outside a heteronormative lifestyle. In this case, however, Louis’s family didn’t accept him either way. Talk about a stake to the heart. 

Navigating Queerness and Race in 1910s New Orleans

The show effectively balances fantasy and reality, allowing viewers almost to blur the lines between the two. It’s important to remember that during the 1910s, there was a significant rise in racial tension. Louis, a brothel owner catering to white customers and possessing more wealth than the average enslaved person, still faced opposition. White businessmen conspired against him to ensure his business would fail, as they aimed to shut it down. Louis found the man behind the plan. He openly expressed his disdain for Louis, revealing that he found him repugnant because of his race and sexual orientation.

Louis was justified in killing him. IDC. 

I encountered a situation I never thought possible: even after gaining all the immortal gifts, you can still be vulnerable to human hatred. It shouldn’t have surprised me, as being queer gives you an automatic disadvantage in life. And being a person of color? Forget about it. No amount of vampiric blood or money would change your worth to those who deem you as lesser.

We observe how Louis’s immortality made him more at ease with his sexuality. It served as a gateway to experiences beyond human understanding. I am fond of metaphors, so I see becoming a vampire as a symbol of puberty and open-mindedness. Witnessing his struggle, I embraced this flawed character because he felt real. I also felt validation, as I am sure many others did. In the end, Louis was able to find his voice. That to which I say, “Yas, my undead queen!” 

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Queer Love Can Be Toxic Too

Unfortunately, as Daniel painfully noted during his interview with Louis, Lestat wasn’t the supportive partner he could have been. Instead of genuine guidance, Louis was met with misdirected anger. There was certainly love between them, but it was overshadowed.

Lestat’s love was as passionate as his wrath. He had little patience for Louis’ reluctance to accept all facets of being a vampire. While he enjoyed drinking from humans, Louis would feed from rats. This would cause intense fights between them. Lestat was disgusted by Louis’ shame and guilt regarding his desire for human blood. 

While Louis was indeed a victim to some extent in his abusive relationship with Lestat, the show effectively portrayed the complexities, both positive and negative, of their dynamic. This is a reminder that both heterosexual and non-heterosexual relationships can have many similarities.

Claudia’s Tragic Tale: The Cost of Toxic Parenting

I’m not here to romanticize Louis’ toxic traits and embellish his victimhood. Let’s be real: Louis pressured Lestat to create Claudia, an eternal child who later resents her neglectful fathers for bringing her into existence. This complicates matters, and Louis dared to act like he didn’t want a daughter, which is absurd. I am not suggesting that Louis being dropped from the sky during a domestic fight was justified, nor that Louis and Claudia plotting to murder Lestat with poisoned blood was the best solution to their problems. I’m saying that these two immortal drama queens needed therapy as they destroyed everything around them.

A Scorpio and Libra dating is diabolical work. 

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The real victim here was Claudia. Trapped in a child’s body, never knowing what becoming an adult truly means. Her toxic and abusive parents were too busy caring about everything and everyone else but her. Relatable content. Might I add that having this character as a person of color was a beautiful touch? Interview with the Vampire made a statement by featuring Black main characters. Come on, an immortal interracial couple with a Black vampire child—scandalous AF.

I could go on about Claudia, but I’m sorry, girl. I have to keep talking about your dramatic dads. As you once said, “Picked another one over me!” 

The Impact of Racism and Homophobia on Immortal Lives

Each episode left me feeling conflicted about what to be angry about. Should I be upset with Lestat’s cruelty, Louis’ eagerness to please, Daniel’s probing questions that force accountability, or Armand’s manipulative behavior to keep Louis around and ensure he resents Lestat? Or perhaps I should focus on the racist and homophobic characters who complicate this dysfunctional vampire family’s existence? Probably all of the above. Seeing the metaphorical sun draw near while vampires toy with its flames served as a reminder that these powerful night creatures still possessed human flaws. That’s the point, isn’t it?

I would be flattered if a vampire saw me, fell in love, and decided to make me their forever partner. However, I would not have enjoyed being isolated from my family and forced to rush transition from human to bloodsucker. All the while, I would be gaslighted and abused, which in turn would make me a toxic partner as well.

As their story unfolds, so does the drama. The characters change, and these changes are sometimes for the worse. These dads and their dramatics led to Claudia’s fiery death. No, this isn’t a spoiler because this happened in the books, so don’t come at me. The potential to have had an enriching and fulfilling home figuratively and literally went up in flames. This scenario could have been about a heterosexual relationship, and the message would not have lost its value. Now that’s how you know the writing is genius.

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Anne Rice is Queen

It’s mentioned earlier that Anne Rice was the queen of subtext, so the writers of this series ate in fleshing out the characters in the Vampire Chronicles Universe. This show provided us with everything we desired: romance, lust, passion, and deceit—the perfect recipe for a gay vampire novella. I know I didn’t highlight the positives of this vamp relationship, but that’s overdone in other gay and straight stories. I aimed to address the unpleasant and painful aspects, so you’re welcome.

While we wait for the new season to air in 2026, I recommend rewatching the episodes as a refresher. They’re streaming on both Amazon Video and AMC+. Or if you want something more intimate, walk around at night and hope for the undead to pay you mind and offer you everlasting life.

JK. Don’t do that. Please.

Damian Hex is a horror-themed performer, video game tester, and media personality. As a proud queer person of color, he uses his voice to amplify marginalized voices. You can find him at screenings, nightlife events, conventions, and ghoul gatherings. When he is not outside striking terror into the hearts of innocents, you can catch him spreading the unholy word to audiences on Twitch.

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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch: Up In Smoke (S7E9)

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Welcome back, fellow ranchers! Let’s jump right to the point today. This is an action-packed episode. Season 7 Episode 9 “Up In Smoke” reminds me why I love The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch; this is the show I fell in love with. This show once felt like an adventure…a relief from the over written, over-dramatized shows of its ilk. Slowly, it started to cannibalize itself and become something unrecognizable. But this episode just warmed my cold heart.

I don’t have anything interesting to talk about regarding Ufology, as I’ve been spending less and less time on social media. Which really has been a breath of fresh air. But I will give a quick shoutout to the book I just finished! Scott Thomas’s Violet was a breathtaking novel that treads lightly before making you realize you’ve been in the deep end the whole time. His other novel, Kill Creek, is one of my top 10 favorites of all time, and Violet just proves that was not a fluke. If you’re into slow-burn horror novels that don’t give you everything on a silver plate, novels that make you work for the goodies, then Violet will hit that spot perfectly for you. 

Okay, enough is enough. I hyped up this episode, and I need to stop beating around the bush. Without further ado, let’s head out to our second favorite ranch in Utah to see if we get any closer to uncovering The Secret…of Skinwalker Ranch. 

Mesa Drilling Continues on The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch

Mesa Drill Site – 8:36 AM

We join Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Kaleb Bench, Thomas Winterton, Archaeologist Chris Roberts, Sam Deriso, and Technologist Pete Kelsey at the top of the Mesa. Jed Murray and Bo Camp, of Triple A Drilling, are setting up their drill for the day’s happenings. Erik points out a spot that he truly believes is where the shallowest part of the anomaly is; around the 30-foot area. This should put them on the right path to drilling to the object buried within the Mesa. 

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Triple A starts drilling the fourth two-foot-diameter vertical borehole. While the drilling commences, Dr. Travis Taylor and Kaleb Bench join Chris Roberts at the spoils pile from Vertical Borehole Three; the borehole where metal flakes were found around the 60- to 70-foot mark. Not too long after they begin, Travis finds a metal flake with Chris’s magnet. They notice that it has rust on it, and they are very confident that it did not come off of the drill. 

The spoils team radios down to the science tent and asks Erik Bard, Sam Deriso, and Pete Kelsey to head over. The three men meet up at the spoils pile. Just from a simple look, Erik is certain the metal flake is artificial material. He also says that it makes him hopeful. But that hope will run dry soon enough. 

A Fourth Borehole Fails to Reach the Suspected Mesa Object

Mesa Drill Site – Later That Day – 4:37 PM

Triple A has spent the entire day drilling and has now reached the 40-foot mark. Well beyond where the team thought the buried object was. Thomas Winterton radios the team and asks them to come over to the drill. The team arrives, and Thomas delivers the bad news. Dr. Travis Taylor is perplexed, “This doesn’t make any sense to me.” Multiple data points prove an object is within the Mesa. Erik Bard says they should stop drilling for some time and invite Dr. Jan Francke back to the ranch for more GPR scans. 

Dr. Jan Francke Returns With a New Ground-Penetrating Radar System

Top Of The Mesa – Three Days Later – 9:25 AM

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Dr. Jan Francke joins Dr. Travis Taylor, Kaleb Bench, and Thomas Winterton at the top of the Mesa. He’s here to scan the interior of Borehole One with a brand new device he designed specifically for Skinwalker Ranch. This device is called a Coded Sequence Reader, which he somewhat discussed in Season 7 Episode 6 “All Mesa’d Up”. Dr. Francke made this device after scans from Season 7 Episode 5, “Home Sweet Homestead,” returned corrupted data. Because of this, Dr. Francke believes that something from within the Mesa is jamming his devices. 

This new instrument, which has encrypted signals, should bypass any interference and collect clean images of the things buried within the Mesa. I’ve said it before: there are only a handful of people on this show whose genuine amazement at the ranch’s happenings means anything to me. The team from Sky Elements and LOC Precision are highly regarded in their respective fields, so when something goes awry and they’re amazed, that means something. I can happily add Dr. Jan Francke to that list. 

We get a really nice little monologue in a talking head from Dr. Francke where he lays some stuff out on the line. He states that he has done this kind of work in 108 countries around the globe. To date, Skinwalker Ranch is the site that produces the most amount of frustration from an instrumentation and data standpoint. He ends his talking head by saying that too many weird things happen here (that he has seen data-wise) that he cannot easily explain. 

Dr. Travis Taylor and Kaleb Bench head to the bottom of the Mesa to help maneuver the rope and pulley system that will bring Dr. Francke’s GPR device down the borehole. The device makes it to the bottom and back to the top with no issue. Dr. Francke is excited, but nervous, to see the data. 

New GPR Data Reveals Metallic Anomalies at Skinwalker Ranch

Skinwalker Ranch Command Center – The Next Day – 10:06 AM

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Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Dr. Jan Francke, Sam Deriso, Kaleb Bench, and Thomas Winterton sit around the Command Center table. Somehow, Dr. Francke scrubbed through all the data and has some great news: usable data!

Dr. Francke’s GPR data shows some sort of anomaly at the 80-foot mark. Erik Bard says this is puzzling, but ultimately validating. What’s even more perplexing, per Dr. Travis Taylor, is that this means they should have hit whatever is down there. Thankfully, that’s not all. Dr. Francke’s scans revealed something else. 

At around the 290-foot mark, inside Borehole One, are two large anomalies. Moreover, these anomalies, per Dr. Jan Francke, are very clearly metallic. Shocked and stumped, the team doesn’t know what this means. This data review ends with Travis asking Dr, Jan Francke if they can run GPR down the vertical boreholes, which he says they can start working on. 

Boxes With Freaking “Lasers”

Skinwalker Ranch Command Center – Later That Day – 7:04 PM

An Austin Powers reference in 2026?! Who do I think I am?

Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Thomas Winteron, and Jim Royston meet up outside the Skinwalker Ranch Command Center. Jim Royston has brought a box with him (that will oddly be referred to later as Pete Kelsey’s laser box??) that they will take over to Homestead Two. If you remember, in Season 7 Episode 5 “Home Sweet Homestead”, the team brought Navajo shaman Art Hardy to perform a prayer ceremony at Homestead Two. 

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Homestead Two has long been my favorite part of The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. It’s been home to strange phenomena like orbs, portals, and errant radiation poisoning. Thankfully, the rest of this episode is all about Homestead Two; it feels like a genuine episode of Ghost Hunters. That being said, there is one thing that happens that I feel a bit iffy about. But we’ll cover that when it comes up. 

The Team Heads Back to Homestead Two for Another Paranormal Experiment

Erik Bard says they will set up the laser box inside the main house at Homestead Two. They will then use the smoke gun from Season 7 Episode 4 “Smoking Guns” to blast smoke into the dilapidated house. The hope is that the smoke will allow them to see the lasers clearly. Dr. Travis Taylor says this specialized laser box will project a grid of laser beams inside the main building where they’ve previously detected random 1.6 GHz signals. And then Travis says something odd.

Travis reveals that they plan to use an audio file of the whistle Art Hardy used during his ceremony. Remember, Art had specifically requested parts of the ceremony not be filmed. This implies that there’s a level of secrecy and privacy that he wanted to maintain during this ceremony. It’s clear that there are still heavy feelings from the Native Americans in this area about Skinwalker Ranch (and even Blind Frog Ranch). So the fact that Travis wants to use Art Hardy’s whistle WHILE HE’S NOT THERE feels a little bit…wrong. 

Or, maybe I’m too woke. 

Smoke, Lasers, and LiDAR Set the Stage at Skinwalker Ranch

Homestead Two – 8:04 PM

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Dr. Travis Taylor, Kaleb Bench, Thomas Winterton, Jim Royston, Erik Bard, and Pete Kelsey are setting up for the night’s experiments at Homestead Two. 

Thomas Winterton sets up some high-speed cameras pointing into the main building. Pete Kelsey prepares to run stationary and moving LiDAR devices throughout the evening. A GPS sensor is placed atop Homestead Two. Multiple spectrum analyzers will be monitored throughout the night. Jim Royston will be flying his thermal drone across the area. 

Since Homestead Two is on the very outside edge of The Bubble boundary, the team hopes they can see if there is any connection between Homestead Two and The Bubble. As the night begins to get started, Erik Bard heads back to the Skinwalker Ranch Command Center. 

8: 45 PM

As usual, to test the equipment, Dr. Travis Taylor runs a 1.6 GHz signal on his signal generator. Erik Bard confirms he sees the signal from the Command Center. Travis turns the signal off as it’s been confirmed on both ends. Erik also confirms that he lost the signal. Just moments later, both Travis and Erik confirm that the signal…has come back! Travis’s directional antenna confirms the signal is coming directly from Homestead Two. 

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Erik also makes sure to note that the signal is above the noise floor. That just means the measure of the signal created from the sum of all the noise sources (per Wiki). 

A Strange Light Appears at Homestead Three During the Experiment

Homestead Two – 9:01 PM

Thomas Winterton starts pumping smoke into Homestead Two. Once the building is full of smoke, Pete Kelsey turns his (?) laser grid on. It honestly looks sick as hell. And that’s when Erik Bard notices something odd from the Skinwalker Ranch Command Center: a light. 

From his desk chair, Erik notices a blinking light coming from Homestead Three, a location we have rarely even heard mentioned. Erik radios Dr. Travis Taylor and asks if they have anyone from the team or production over at Homestead Three. Travis confirms that no one is over there. Thomas and Kaleb Bench sprint over to Homestead Three, but they don’t find anything. Yet. 

Travis asks Jim Royston if he could put his thermal drone in the air to see if he can find anything. Jim obliges and gets his drone in the air. But as the drone approaches Homestead Three, Thomas and Kaleb see something odd. They both notice a mysterious green light. No matter how hard they look, neither Kaleb, Thomas, nor Jim are able to confirm further information on the mysterious light. 

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Jim’s drone finally makes it overtop Homestead Three. And that’s when Pete Kelsey notices something weird. “Why is Homestead Three so warm?” Pete asks. It looks like a furnace is on inside the building. But it’s falling apart; nothing is inside of it. Since no one is able to find an answer to the mystery light, Thomas, Kaleb, and Jim’s drone head back to Homestead Two. 

Laser Anomalies and Radio Failures Add to the Mystery

Now that the whole team is back at Homestead Two, they get back to the experiment. Thomas Winterton fills the house with smoke and turns the lasers back on. While this is going on, Dr. Travis Taylor plays the audio file of Art’s whistle. That’s when two things happen at the same time. Erik Bard notices the data from the GPS tracker placed atop Homestead Two has started moving vertically. Simultaneously, Travis starts receiving a 1.6 GHz signal from Homestead Two!

Travis redirects his attention to the live video of the smoke and lasers inside the house. That’s when he notices something passing through the beams. He can’t make up his mind as he states that something is either moving or walking through the beams. Thinking there may be another new anomaly found, Travis asks Pete Kelsey to run his SLAM scanner inside the house. 

Pete heads over to run his SLAM scanner. Once inside the homestead, Pete radios to Travis and Jim Royston. The two men can see Pete trying to talk to them through the live video feed, but his radio severely malfunctions. Travis notes the same thing happened during Art’s ceremony with the whistle and how the EEG headset stopped working even though it was only 20 or so feet away from “EEG expert” Maddy Farrer’s computer. 

Drone Signal Loss at Skinwalker Ranch Raises More Questions

They decide to do one last experiment for the evening. Homestead Two is filled with smoke once more, and the laser box is turned on. While this happens, Jim flies his thermal drone inside and outside of The Bubble. Right as Jim’s drone gets to The Bubble boundary, it loses signal. Like literally it crosses the boundary, and the signal goes out. Thankfully, for Jim, the drone starts flying itself, and once it makes it out of The Bubble, he’s able to safely land it. 

Data Review Highlights the Homestead Three Heat Signature

Skinwalker Ranch Command Center – Next Day – 11:58 AM

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Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Jim Royston, Kaleb Bench, and Thomas Winterton sit around the table at the Skinwalker Ranch Command Center. 

To kick off the review, Erik Bard asks the team to describe exactly what they think they saw moving/walking through the lasers. Dr. Travis Taylor says it looks like a void-thing is moving through the lasers. Unfortunately, Pete Kelsey’s SLAM scanner doesn’t reveal anything useful. Maybe I’m reading into this too much, but Erik doesn’t seem convinced one bit.

Erik then pulls up the video that his Meta-Frame captured from the blinking light at Homestead Three. We can see it blinking for some time before eventually becoming a solid light. That’s when it abruptly and quickly starts hauling ass to the west. This is when Erik asks if the light is someone or something

We end the data review with video from Jim’s first thermal drone flight over to Homestead Three. The top right of the video has the heat index key, and we can glean two important things from that. Firstly, the outside ground is around 30 degrees, which makes sense. Secondly, the roof is also cold, but 60-ish degree heat is emanating from the slots of the broken Homestead Three roof. This would make sense if the floor was concrete and was taking on extreme heat all day. But the floor is made of wood…

Final Thoughts on The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch Season 7 Episode 9

I don’t care about nonexistent voids (that are just leftover plumes of smoke) going through lasers. I’m on Erik’s side with this (even though he doesn’t state that he doesn’t believe it). It’s nothing. What I do care about is the mysterious light and heat anomaly from Homestead Three. This show used to care about true drama, true supernatural phenomena. And this episode delivered the goods.

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How exactly could this wooden structure retain so much heat, especially after the sun has been down for hours? Does this imply that there is something directly beneath Homestead Three? Or could there potentially be a portal at this homestead? I want more episodes that feel ghost hunter-y. That’s when the cast and the viewers are obviously having the most fun. 

Anyways, that’s all for this week! Join us again next week to see if we get any closer to uncovering The Secret…of Skinwalker Ranch.

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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch: Rocket Men (S7E8)

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Welcome back, fellow ranchers! Has it been a week already? I’ll be honest with you all, and I know this is straying outside of the realm of most The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch viewers, but I am obsessed with a game. Any free time that would usually go towards looking into fun Ufology news has been spent on Deadly Days: Roadtrip. Now bear with me, because this game is a blast and a half. 

Deadly Days: Roadtrip is an inventory management, Survivors-like zombie game that pits you against an ever-growing hoard of flesh-eating monsters. I typically get into new games for maybe five to 10 hours and then move on. Not this game. Last time I checked my Steam profile, I had 50 hours into this game that I bought not too long ago. It has eaten up nearly every moment of free time. When I’m not playing it, I have YouTube videos of the game playing in the background. If you’re into fun, just-stressful-enough roguelikes, then Deadly Days: Roadtrip is the game for you. 

Okay, let’s get things back on track. And speaking of back on track, The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch does what it does best: it brought me back from the brink of walking away. This show definitely has its highs and lows, and sometimes it feels like there are more lows than highs. But then you get episodes like Season 7 Episode 8 “Rocket Man” and I’m brought right back in. So, without further ado, let’s jump back to our second favorite ranch in Utah to see if we’re any closer to uncovering The Secret…of Skinwalker Ranch

LiDAR Scans Reveal Missing Bubble and Impossible GPS Anomalies at Skinwalker Ranch

Skinwalker Ranch Command Center – 9:14 AM

Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Sam Deriso, Kaleb Bench, and Thomas Winterton sit around the Command Center table. Technologist Pete Kelsey joins via video call. (We’ll circle back to this because they have a hilarious edit later on that makes you wonder why Pete was on a video call.) Pete has the LiDAR data from last episode’s scans that Pete and Cameron Fugal collected while Triple A continued drilling a vertical Borehole. 

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Pete and Cameron captured LiDAR data from about 200 feet in the air while Kaleb Bench used a stationary LiDAR scanner on the ground at The Triangle. The first piece of data we see is from Kaleb’s ground scans; Pete has overlaid all of the scans on top of each other, and there is one thing missing: The Bubble. And that’s not all. The image is littered with blue icons that show the LiDAR scanner’s position according to internal GPS. The data reveals an 80-foot differential from the first to the last scan. 

“That shouldn’t be possible,” Dr. Travis Taylor says sound biting-ly. 

Then, Pete pulls up his LiDAR data. His GPS data seems normal to start. But just west of the Mesa drill site, we see the GPS jump roughly 50 to 100 feet up. Travis wonders whether, if both LiDAR devices received warped GPS data, that means it was affected by something within The Bubble or by the ongoing drilling? Or…both? 

Drilling at the Mesa Uncovers Mysterious Metal Flakes at Skinwalker Ranch (strongest choice)

Mesa Drill Site – Later That Day – 12:02 PM

Dr. Travis Taylor, Kaleb Bench, Erik Bard, Archaeologist Chris Roberts, Sam Deriso, Thomas Winterton, and (checks notes) Pete Kelsey join the Triple A team at the top of the Mesa. So you’re telling me that Pete Kelsey video-called in and then just a handful of hours later, he was at Skinwalker Ranch and all the way at the top of the Mesa?! I even rewound the episode a few times just to confirm. It was one of the handful of moments in this show that made me belly laugh like Santa Claus. 

We learn that Bo Camp and Jed Murray are at the 53-foot mark in their second vertical Borehole. Dr. Travis Taylor reminds us that this vertical hole is only several feet south of where they had a lateral drill destroyed last year during the drilling of Borehole Two. And if you remember, it was where the ceramic materials (which we now know are more plaster-like) were found. 

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Triple A is ready to get back to drilling. While they do so, Chris Robert and Kaleb Bench sift through the spoils of the drill head. It’s not too long into the drilling that Chris hits gold, figuratively. Using his magnetic wand, Chris found two metal flakes. Thomas Winterton radios down to the science tent and tells the team to come back over.

XRF Analysis Examines Mysterious Metal Flakes as Mesa Drilling Comes to a Halt

Dr. Travis Taylor, Sam Deriso, and Erik Bard head over to the spoils pile to meet with the team. Chris tells them all that these flakes are very similar to the previous flakes found on the ranch. Jed Murray even confirms that these are not the types of flakes that would come off the drill head. If you remember, the flakes previously found on the ranch contained elements like iron, aluminum, europium and tellurium–these are all elements found in the materials used to make spacecraft. 

Erik says he’s going to go get his portable XRF device to measure the chemical makeup of this metal flake. The XRF device uses X-rays to determine the elemental composition of objects. He soon comes back with the device and begins to collect data on the metal flake. We learn that the flake is made up of iron and aluminum, but there is no europium or tellurium. One thing is for sure: they are ready to get those metal flakes over to Utah Valley University. 

Triple A gets back to drilling. When they are only 10 feet away from hitting their mark, the drill makes a popping sound. Fluid shoots out of one of the hoses…they blew a hydraulic line. The bad news is out: the drill will be out of operation for the rest of the day (episode). 

Rocket Experiments Target the Skinwalker Ranch Magnetic Anomaly

The Triangle – 4:25 PM

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Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Jim Royston, Kaleb Bench, and Thomas Winterton meet up with Allen Isdell, Dave Barber, Jay Turicik, and Mike Turicik of LOC Precision. Travis says that, based on information gleaned from Sky Elements’ previous drone experiments, they want to research the magnetic anomaly located about 750 to 1,000 feet above The Triangle. Allen tells the team that they brought rockets that can reach about 3,500 feet. 

Travis goes over the plan for the evening’s experiments. They will be launching rockets of different sizes through two specific target zones: the 30-foot mark where The Blob is and the 750 to 1,000-foot spot with the magnetic anomaly. Since some of the rockets can go above the top of The Bubble, they are hoping that some interesting results can be found from that, too. Some of the rockets will have data-recording devices in them to measure all sorts of data that Erik can scrub over later. On top of that, several high-speed cameras will be set up around The Triangle for Erik’s Meta-Frame to compile. 

The first rocket launch uses a rocket that can reach 1,500 feet, and it won’t have any instruments on it. It’s more or less a test launch. They set up the rocket, and it seemingly goes off without issue. But the tail wiggled shortly after its launch, and the rocket’s body fell off. Even weirder is how the rocket’s parachute was completely ripped out from inside. Travis makes note that this is the third rocket this year that had its interior parachute chord severed.

Rocket Behaves Strangely After Entering the Skinwalker Ranch Bubble

The second rocket is set up and ready to launch. This rocket is six feet tall and chock full of telemetry equipment…and it can reach 3,500 feet! Allen sets off the rocket, but we soon learn that it only hits 2,200 feet. That’s just barely above the top of The Bubble. On its way down, the rocket seems to stop in midair right at the top of The Bubble. 

Here’s where things get weird. Due to the rocket’s weight and lack of wind, it should fall straight down. But it starts to fall away from The Triangle. It finally lands on the ground, but it’s 2,000 feet away from The Triangle and lands at the very edge of The Bubble. It really does look like the rocket fell down the exterior of The Bubble’s boundary! 

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Amazed at this, Travis wants to get the third rocket up as quickly as possible. The rocket goes up, but the chute doesn’t release. There isn’t much follow-up on this rocket at all. 

Night Launch

8:05 PM

Now that night has fallen on Skinwalker Ranch, the team gets ready to set off some more rockets. The first rocket that is set to launch is a coil rocket. Inside the rocket is a coil of copper wire, which will be used to assist in measuring any potential unusual magnetic anomalies. The rocket goes off and successfully hits 3,400 feet. But who would have guessed, the chute doesn’t deploy. Dr. Travis Taylor and Kaleb Bench go to look for the rocket. They eventually find it and find the chute, which didn’t even unfurl. 

They set up for the final rocket launch of the night. This one is covered in LEDs and HUGE. “Now that’s a rocket,” Travis says earnestly. They launch the rocket, and it only goes up to 2,200 feet. Moreover, it suddenly veers off course and heads towards the Skinwalker Ranch Command Center, again with very little wind. This rocket, too, looks like it’s sliding down the outside of The Bubble barrier. 

Rocket Data Reveals Voltage Spike, LiDAR Correlation, and Possible UAP

Skinwalker Ranch Command Center – 11:33 AM

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Dr. Travis Taylor, Erik Bard, Jim Royston, Kaleb Bench, and Thomas Winterton sit around the Command Center table. They get right into the data from the rocket launches. We start with video from the second rocket launch, which had the high-speed cameras attached to it. (Remember, the chute didn’t deploy on this one.)

The video starts with the ignition going off and the rocket blasting into the air. It all looks normal until Erik goes back to the start and goes frame by frame. Shortly after the launch, we see part of the exhaust shoot out horizontally, which is odd. It looks very much like something zipped through it! Dr. Travis Taylor says that’s the exact spot where Pete Kelsey’s GPS data was off from the LiDAR scans. 

Next, Erik pulls up video from the coil rocket night launch. The team placed a camera inside this rocket, which had a voltage meter inside. The rocket launches, and the camera catches the voltage meter showing a peak of 0.0237V. Travis says that number is several times higher than normal. But where did that happen? Erik was able to time the rocket flight and pointed out the voltage spike…was at 750 feet! 

Finally, we see one more night vision video from one of the night launches. Shortly after the rocket launches, a UAP zips right through the rocket’s path. “That’s not a bug,” says Dr. Travis Taylor. 

Final Thoughts on The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch S7 Ep 8

I’m not even going to go over my thoughts on the drilling stuff. Of course, a hydraulic line burst right as they didn’t get any good data. What I do want to talk about is the information we gathered from LOC Precision. I feel the same way about the LOC experiments as I do about the Sky Elements experiments.

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Sky Elements does drone shows for a living. LOC Precision knows rockets inside and out. When Allen Isdell or Preston Ward seem genuinely amazed by something that happens to the objects they use on a near-daily basis, that’s important to note. I believe Allen when he says his rockets can hit 3.5k feet. So when that doesn’t happen, I find more credence in that than most other stuff on the ranch. And watching the rockets fall down the side of The Bubble is incredibly compelling.

I don’t know much about voltages or magnetic anomalies, so I really can’t comment on whether Dr. Travis Taylor is correct when he says that number is several times higher than expected. But if Allen is impressed/amazed by what happened, then I should be too. Anyways, thanks for joining us for this episode, and we look forward to exploring with you next week! Maybe, just maybe, we’ll get a little closer to uncovering The Secret…of Skinwalker Ranch. 

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