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[INTERVIEW] Talking All Things ‘Hell Motel’ with Ian Carpenter

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My fellow couch potatoes know how hard it is to find quality horror television. Too many series have no faith in their audiences, so we get overexplained to death. Many others run into issues with networks and can only give us so much blood and violence. These are a few reasons why my favorite Shudder series, Slasher, stands out from the crowd by avoiding those pitfalls. The last three seasons are criminally underrated, and I have been waiting to see what the team would do next. Luckily, the wait is over because Hell Motel is coming to a television near you this June. 

Hell Motel follows a group of true crime obsessives invited to the opening weekend of the newly renovated Cold River Motel. The motel is the site of a 30-year-old unsolved satanic mass murder. The group soon discovers that history might be repeating itself as they each begin meeting their grisly demise one by one. The series is the brainchild of creators Aaron Martin and Ian Carpenter.

Upon hearing that Martin and Carpenter were creating a new horror anthology and bringing most of their Slasher crew with them, I ran to my editor’s inbox to call dibs on interviews. I crowned myself the Hell Motel Lady of Horror Press and started sending emails. That is how I ended up picking Ian Carpenter’s brain about Hell Motel. I figured as co-creator, executive producer, and showrunner, Carpenter would be a great place to start looking for answers. We discuss what it was like reassembling so much of the Slasher squad for a new series, how the team manages to keep the audience guessing, and (obviously) haunted motels. Read on for a spoiler-free discussion about this new bloody series bringing mayhem, murder, and mystery to Shudder this summer.

An Interview with Hell Motel Co-Creator Ian Carpenter

Sharai Bohannon: You and Aaron Martin have been pretty frequent collaborators since Slasher: Solstice. So, I was giddy when I saw you were the co-creators of Hell Motel. What do you think makes this partnership work so well? What unique things do you think you both bring to the table?

Ian Carpenter: Great question, and it feels strange to answer it with him absent. I think it works well because we have lots of similar interests and loves (humor, crazy situations for extreme but grounded characters, a well-turned mystery, sweetness, meanness, and camp). I think our tastes have moved a little in each other’s directions, but an essential part of our creative chemistry is the ways in which we’re different.

So, we can surprise each other. That’s very present in our back-and-forth on scripts. Our humor has some differences, and we’ll each push different boundaries. It has reached a Lennon/McCartney state where the divisions are very blurry, and all the more blurry because we’re now great friends. I don’t know that I’d want to dissect it.

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There are so many other familiar names behind the camera and familiar faces on screen. I think it says a lot about the culture you all created on Slasher that so much of the troupe keeps turning up (in Hell Motel and Guess Who). Are you at the point where you write with specific actors in mind already? Or do you write it and see where it might be fun to put the people who are returning?

It’s a bit of both. One or two actors will come up for one or two characters. We might write with them in mind, but then we also like to keep the characters clean of the cast. So, we let them live and grow independently. Then, when we get near the end of writing all the scripts, we start talking about who it could be. Sometimes that’s an unranked list of four great actors for one part, and you figure out, “Well, if we get So-and-So for this, Actor X would be a great foil for her in this part.” If I laid out the almost cast core Slasher actor moments (often impacted by scheduling), your mind, like mine, would explode. The crazy thing is that it always leads to actors in parts you then can’t imagine being played by anyone else.

Many of you have worked together for almost a decade between Slasher and Hell Motel. However, each season and each show provides new challenges and opportunities. What is one thing you learned, or maybe realized for the first time, about yourself (or your creative team) while working on Hell Motel?

It helps to have a witch, like Aaron’s mother, show up and make sure the weather does exactly what you need it to.

Motels are always interesting locations for horror. They are these big looming presences that become almost another character in movies like Psycho, Identity, Vacancy, etc. How did you and Aaron settle on telling a story that unfolds in a motel? What excited you about tackling something so location-specific with this new anthology series?

We’re both super aware of all the great movies set in motels, so it feels like a ripe location. There’s something about the vulnerability of everyone moving through those spaces, off-kilter because they’re out of their homes, in danger because they don’t know the kind of monsters who could be right next door, just like it is for all of us in real life. This really worked for the famous murder-site story we wanted to tell. You just know someone’s going to (if they haven’t already) Airbnb a home that hosted a terrible murder…

Many of us have a few stories about motels (or Airbnbs) that still haunt us (or make us itch). Do you have one that you’re willing to share? 

Nothing crazy. My wife is very interested in ghost hunting, so we’ve visited many haunted locations. I’ve had a door slammed on my back in a 100% empty room when I was by myself, a ball at a haunted school house moved non-stop, two feet in front of me. But having the entire Inn at the Falls in Bracebridge to ourselves, no other guests, no staff, felt crazy given its haunted history. For some reason, creeping around there at night, just the two of us, was way scarier than the other moments. As with horror, it’s usually the anticipation or fear of what’s going to happen that freaks me out. Actual activity kind of delights me…but, maybe I’ve been lucky with what’s happened…

Many people will show up thinking this will be a standard motel horror situation and be pleasantly surprised. There is already so much to unpack in just the first two episodes.  It’s diving into influencer culture, true crime fanatics, and an actor struggling to find her place after the industry has spit her out. It’s feeling like it’s leaning into the idea of trends and, more importantly,  what the things we make trendy say about us as a society. If I’m not off base (I’m only two episodes in), what are you hoping audiences take away from this? Do you think they’ll be able to see themselves in the mirror the show is holding up to all of us?

It’s exactly what you’re saying. We wanted to hold the mirror up to them, our fans, and ourselves as both horror fans and creators. Why are we drawn to these awful stories? What do we get out of them? I know many (or maybe even most) of us have our limits and no-go zones (like kids, animals, or SA). However, if that sense of morality or sensitivity or trauma, exists in us as viewers and creators, why is so much other awfulness okay? I’ve got lots of thoughts as to the why and what we all get out of it, but I’d rather hear our audiences’ experiences. And, make no mistake, I LOVE these kind of stories, but like all horror fiends, I get questioned all the time by friends and family who don’t like or understand the genre. So, it felt like time for us to do that from a fan perspective.

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One of the things I love about Hell Motel is the examination of true crime content creators. It’s a very murky business, and mileage varies from person to person. It feels like we have differing viewpoints on the genre as a whole (and also the people who benefit from it). It’s a sticky subject but is also always trending. What inspired you and Aaron to go in this direction? Also, are either of you true crime fans?

We’re both much more interested in fictional crime and horror, but we dive into true crime and the fictional remakes that are trending these days. As creators, you’re always wondering about the factual hell that some people have experienced or wrought.

I’m leaning in for this journey that Paige (Paula Brancati) is on as a former scream queen who has been all but forgotten. I think that happens with women over the age of 25 in all fields. I’m rooting for her character to live just because she’s so relatable. I have to ask, is this character influenced by specific horror actresses? Or is it just kind of a general observation of what happens to women society decides are past their prime as soon as our frontal lobes finish developing?

Hard-core horror fans and creators are super loyal to the actresses who affected us all so much. But, for every Barbara Crampton and Jamie Lee Curtis, there are those unsung heroines who ran half naked, covered in blood on freezing cold nights, acting their guts out, who have just come and gone. Anytime I’m watching 70s and 80s horror, I’m looking up what happened to certain actors, and there’s lots of sad stories out there, like Robin Stille from Slumber Party Massacre. It was the pervasiveness of that brutal history, rather than one particular person.

You’re wearing a ton of hats at Hell Motel, and I noticed one of those positions is serving as the showrunner. We all know that is not a job for the weak as it requires you to be everything everywhere all at once. However, I think this scans for you because it’s something you’re pretty great at and seem to enjoy doing. So, what is your favorite part of this stressful title? What gets you excited enough about it to volunteer as tribute?

Thanks! I mean, to me, it’s the most creative position. Aaron and I have built this thing, and I want to see every inch of it reach what we think is its greatest potential. To make sure it’s what we intended and love. The best part is working with other artists, like Director Adam MacDonald, the amazing DOPs, Production Designers, Editors, Composers, Costume Designers, Hair, Make-up, and our amazing prosthetics team at Black Spot. The list, which is dangerous to start for fear of excluding people, goes on and on. The genre demands a lot from everyone on the crew. So, if I can inspire those people to take creative risks, to bring their A-game, to get them to push my boundaries and blow me away, it’s an incredible experience. And I count every last one of them as part of it. It’s a list with over 150 names on it. I’m grateful for all their involvement.

While we’re here, what is one thing you wish you had known before accepting your first showrunner position on Slasher: Solstice?

Because I had wanted to do it, I was studying it on every gig I had before Slasher. It was a study of leadership, and I asked the showrunners I worked with to expose me to anything I didn’t understand or know about. At one point, when I was between gigs, I thought, I don’t know enough about post [production]. So, I reached out to friends with shows and asked if I could shadow any of those moments. The only person who said yes was Aaron. And, pointedly, the thing he invited me to was the mix for the pilot of season 2 of Slasher. Having Aaron on the end of the phone when I started on season 3 made it all a little like showrunner school. I was really fortunate to have all of that experience available to me.

One of the many reasons I love your work is because you have mastered the art of the kill. Not trying to spoil anything, but what is your favorite kill this season? Is it possible to give us a hint?

Ha. It changed as we shot and edited, but in the end, there’s a callback kill just past halfway in the season. At night, in a rainy forest – and the victim’s performance and the direction and how it looks, all guts me.

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It’s really special to me and beautifully emotional.

We live in a time where many movies and shows reveal everything within the first five minutes. However, part of the fun is figuring out the whodunnit. One of the things I love about what you and Aaron are doing in the slasher genre is this refusal to write down to your audiences. You’re making shows for smart people who do want to dissect the plot and dig into the themes.

So, first off, thank you for making smart TV. Secondly, how hard is it to stay ahead of your audience, who has watched horror forever and will overanalyze every single detail?

Another great question. It’s really hard, verging on impossible. With a whodunnit, that’s always present, right? I meanif the killer comes out of the blue, it’ll dissatisfy everyone. So, you absolutely must have tips, and clues, and motivations that track, but if you tip it too much, that doesn’t work (though you can see we’re playing with that this season). This is where our execs at Shaftesbury, Hollywood Suite, and Shudder come into play.

They’re our first readers. A big plus with David Kine at Hollywood Suite and Nick [Lazo] and Sam [Zimmerman] at Shudder is they have an amazing story sense. Between Nick and Sam, they’ve seen everything in horror. A great note in our first season working with them that came up a couple times is, “Our audience will totally figure it out if this moment happens.” Our audience is next-level, and they’re combing through everything and assembling all the possibilities. But that kind of engagement is super exciting and motivates us even more.

Hell Motel premieres on Shudder with a two-part episode on Tuesday, June 17.

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Sharai is a writer, horror podcaster, freelancer, and recovering theatre kid. She is the host of the podcast of Nightmare On Fierce Street, one-half of Blerdy Massacre. She has bylines at Fangoria, HorrorBuzz, NightTide, and she is Co-EIC of Horror Movie Blog. She spends way too much time with her TV while failing to escape the Midwest. You can find her most days on Instagram and Twitter. However, if you do find her, she will try to make you watch some scary stuff.

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[INTERVIEW] Inside the Glitter-Streaked World of ‘The Vampire Lestat’ with Production Designer Andres Cubillan

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Lestat, Lestat, Lestat. That’s been the name on my lips ever since the first teasers for AMC’s The Vampire Lestat dropped last year. This new iteration of the show formerly known as Interview with the Vampire centers on the eponymous Brat Prince himself, Lestat de Lioncart (Sam Reid), as he embarks on a cross-country tour of contemporary America with his self-titled band, his antics immortalized on film by snarky baby bloodsucker Daniel Molloy (Eric Bogosian), the ghosts of his past hot on his heels.

But if you’re reading this, you already know all that. You’re here for the juicy details, and who better to dish them than the man who crafts Lestat’s most intimate spaces, production designer Andres Cubillan? A newcomer to the world that Anne Rice created and showrunner Rolin Jones breathed new life into, Cubillan helped ensure that The Vampire Lestat feels like an entirely different beast to the seasons that came before it, without losing sight of the series’ immortal soul—or Lestat’s divine bitchiness.

Around the midway point of the season, I caught up with Cubillan to discuss the big questions in life, like “doesn’t that shower make the bus damp?” and “how do you cuddle in a coffin made for one?” Here’s what he had to say about designing for the wolf killer extraordinaire’s most chaotic and iconic era yet.

The Vampire Lestat Turns up the Dial on the World We’ve Seen So Far (And Yes, It Goes to Eleven)

Samantha McLaren: The shift to Lestat’s perspective this season really turns expectations on their head. As production designer, how much freedom did you have to overhaul the look and feel of the show—and were you nervous at all about changing things that fans had come to expect?

Andres Cubillan: Yes, absolutely. When I was meeting for it, Rolin said from the get-go that he wanted this to look like a completely different show. He said “this is basically like we are rebooting our own show,” so he knew it had to be a total tonal shift, a total visual shift.

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For me, my nerves came from the high quality of the work before. I’m a good friend of Mara LePere-Schloop [production designer on the first two seasons]. I trained under her, I admire her immensely, so it was more about how to do the beautiful work justice. And I’ve said this before, but I wanted to be able to crank up the dial on what Lestat would be now, present day—his point of view and his emotional state. I took liberties where liberties were given, and I just knew that it needed to be incredibly well researched, and there needed to be so much thought behind everything—not just because our writers are so passionate about the original literature, the scripture, but also the fans. Our fans know every word that Anne Rice has written front and back. We couldn’t just be flippant about any decision. We needed to do something spectacular for her, and for the character.

SM: One thing I love about vampire media is the inherent tension between the allure and glamour of vampirism, and the decay and death that’s an inherent part of it. Is that tension something that you wanted to play with this season?

AC: I try to actually go away from the traditional vampire tropes. In early discussions with Rolin, we said let’s be very particular as to where we use red—where black is even used… We wanted Lestat to feel unique in the vampire genre, as opposed to cliché in any way.

In terms of the allure, he’s so insanely alluring in and of himself that it’s going to come naturally, so for me, it was a matter of trying to fill in the blanks in the script—what can I say in the design that’s going to give context to him and his actions in that particular moment? It sort of naturally becomes alluring and sexy and dramatic, but I don’t think it was a conscious thing.

Lestat’s Tour Bus Showcases the Personalities of Its Occupants—And the Collaboration Between the Crew

SM: It comes through in interesting ways, like his tour bus. You have the dichotomy of that glamorous, sleek upper deck and the dingy, disgusting lower deck. When you were designing the bus, how much did you research real tour buses, and how much of it came from lurid imaginings?

AC: A lot of research. There was something so easy in grounding a rock star like Lestat in more of a retro vibe—Bowie, Jagger, Iggy Pop—but I wanted to try to blend it in with more of a contemporary musician. So, I looked a lot at contemporary tour buses, but they’re not very exciting. It’s a lot of formica and cramped spaces, and it didn’t feel personalized enough.

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Then it became more of a departure after doing that research, to go back to these artists from the 70s, 80s, and 90s that actually did personalize their buses that way. Led Zeppelin, for example, they had a 747—I think it was called The Starship—it had a completely decked-out lounge with a piano and a fireplace and shag carpeting. Whether they knew it at the time or not, it felt iconic. It was one of those places that everyone wanted to go and be with them. So, how to translate that to Lestat? I wanted the dichotomy, as you said, of this flippant reaction to not caring how the rest of the band or everyone else was faring down below: he was going to make his space the inviting, seductive lounge that he wanted it to be. Rolin kept using the word “bespoke,” and I think we wanted it to appear like nothing we had seen before.

The downstairs became so fun because we could just throw anything out there and it would feel in place—formica walls and leopard-print rugs. I had seen this one picture of Taylor Swift’s tour bus. It was a regular tour bus, except she brought in her own couch; she liked the comfort of that couch. So we brought in this custom-upholstered, crushed metallic velour couch, and then it broke everyone’s heart when we aged it down with cigarette burns and miscellaneous stains, but it needed to feel crunchy. It was fitting, but it needed to feel appropriate.

And the evolution of that set—how to individualize each of the spaces for each of the band members without actually saying “this is my space.” We tried to do, in our heads, backstory rituals for the characters. I liked the idea of Salamander taking his gum out of his mouth as soon as he got in the bus and just sticking it on the wall, or sticking it on the ceiling, so that became the Fisherman’s Wharf section, just wrapped in chewed gum. And the fact that TC would hang a garland of socks across her bunk bed. There were a series of little customizations to each of them to give a little more of their personality within a greater space.

And then Lestat’s upstairs space—I really struggled with that one. The downstairs? Easy. Upstairs? So difficult, because the combination of glam, luxury, rock and roll, but also classic and elegant—there were all of these clashing styles that needed to come together in that space. We kept changing themes back and forth, and I worked a lot with Lex Wood, our costume designer, because every time I would pick an upholstery fabric and I’d be like “I have it, this is it! It’s so unusual—it’s phenomenally Lestat.” And then she would bring out his costume and be like “he’s going to disappear into the sofa—that’s exactly what he’s wearing in this scene.” Okay, back to the drawing board! Here we go again.

But I think, ultimately, it made it better to go through all of those drafts and those versions, having input from all of these people… I had this idea for a shower that would open and it would be Botticelli’s [Venus] painting but Lestat is the one on the shell, so it was like “check me out, I’m phenomenal and amazing.” And as things started breaking down in terms of space, one of my concept artists said, “What if the chandelier is a shower?” I was like, oh my god, that’s brilliant—that’s so unusual. Having the collaboration from all these different people to come in and bring their ideas made it more special.

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Lestat Is Not Afraid of Standing Out—And That Iconic Shower Creates New Avenues for Exhibitionism

SM: Love that shower. It feels almost ethereal—like, it shouldn’t exist in the middle of this bus, on the top deck no less, but it works because everything around Lestat feels a little bit magical. He’s an ethereal being moving through this space.

AC: There were two things that I loved about that. One was, we made the windows on either side of the shower taller. Rolin and I had this idea that we were never able to actually shoot: we wanted this shot of the bus next to a minivan at a stoplight, and just this family gawking up at Lestat, buck naked, showering, because he doesn’t care—it’s a “feast your eyes” sort of thing.

And then, as I’ve been posting online and adding photos of the set so that the fans can see a little bit more, there was someone who—not in a critical way—said “but the shower next to the upholstery, is that going to get mildewy?” Which is brilliant, but I don’t think Lestat would care. He’d just say, “Reupholster them. Change them out.”

I don’t think you’re able to see it, but before the blood shower comes down, from the start, the banquettes are blood-stained along the bottom… It’s just giving a little hint of what’s to come, of what the potential of the space was.

SM: You mentioned working with Lex Wood and the collaboration there. I’m curious, how much did you want the costumes and the design to work harmoniously together, or did you want any clash there because Lestat is such a chaotic and loud character?

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AC: I always say that with production design, if you’re noticing it, I’m not doing it well. I think it should feel very natural, and it should never take away from the character or the story. With something like this, it’s context and it should be flashy to a degree, but from the start, the rule that Rolin, Hannah [Moscovitch, executive producer/writer], Lex, and I came to was always make Lestat pop from everything.

Lex and I did have conversations on the side about moments where we thought his character wouldn’t necessarily want to stand out, or wouldn’t be ready to stand out—if there was any hesitation on his part. We were able to pick and choose those moments. I’ve never had such a collaborative experience with a costume designer before. Lex knew Lestat and knew Sam in a way that I didn’t, so for her to bring in her reasoning as to why she was bringing in those colors or those patterns—sometimes it altered the design, because I was like well, this is the right thing to do; he really should stand out, or he really should blend in.

But the tension was always, always keep your eye on Lestat. Any time he walks into a room, the eye should always go to him. That was the bible rule we all needed to follow.

Lestat’s Apartment in Montreal Balances Culture and Comfort (With a Touch of Louis)

SM: I want to talk a little about Lestat’s home in Montreal that we see in the first episode. After two seasons of seeing him in the past, it’s almost jarring to see him in this cozy, modern space wearing a comfy sweater. But the closer you look, the more you realize it’s him, just contemporized. What was your starting point for that space—what were the details you knew you needed for it to feel Lestat, and were there some surprising little twists you wanted to pull in for this modern version of him?

AC: I started with Mara’s work in season one. The space that she had designed for him was so lush and detailed; the color was incredibly rich. The conversation that I had with Rolin when I was pitching his space was that it always felt like, in the past, he is hiding his true self; he is assimilating into the time, into the culture, into the style and fashions. Now that he doesn’t have that hang-up anymore—even less after he becomes a musician, but even when we see him before the book comes out—he is finally able to be himself in a way that isn’t hiding away from the public eye. To me, then, Lestat is someone who lives incredibly boldly. I didn’t want to shy away from very bold and obnoxious choices. So I took Mara’s work and I just pumped up the volume and threw some nuclear waste on it, just to see what would happen, what would that reaction be?

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I started with the music room. That was basically the one place that I really wanted to use red, and I made the room completely monochromatic. The walls and the ceiling are gloss red; the carpet is an ochre red. Even the drapes are red with zebras on it. I wanted it to feel warm and like a space of creation, so when my decorator, Summer Gaal, and I started going around what his house would be, we started with the music room. We thought that would be the beginning of all his ideas and creation. We knew it needed to be something that a very cultured person would have. He’s been around for a very long time—not that old vampires are automatically cultured and elegant, but more that he does come from an aristocratic background. He has lived a life of wealth and fame for 200+ years. So, I wanted it to be able to say, “I don’t need to own the most expensive painting. I want a painting that I react to.” And what are the variety of items that he’s reacting to across the centuries that he has lived and across all the different cultures and places that he has known?

My decorator found this gorgeous, kind of collapsing oversized purple couch, and that didn’t fit at all. It wasn’t elegant. It wasn’t anything special. (It actually was—my decorator told me afterward that it’s apparently some very famous sofa that I had no idea about!) But it felt like a place where he could crawl up with his boots on and just strum his guitar to just give him the cocoon, that sort of comfort that he’s always, I think, been looking for.

And from there, the living room: what is that contrast, what is the place of seduction? Very early on in one of the scripts, Lestat was in a book club and they were reading the book with select characters, and I thought, how ridiculous is this that this character is having a book club to complain about his ex-boyfriend’s book? So what does that space look like? It’s the contrast to the music room: it just needs to be hard and soft, warm and cold, little nods to the theater life with the pulled drapery with the view to the street.

Obviously the painting… The Lovers [René Magritte, 1928] with the veiled, covered faces. That was something that one of my graphic designers brought to me and she said “you know, I think we can get this painting,” and all of a sudden, it just completely clicked. It’s the veil; it’s the fact that we don’t know who that person is. It just made sense to have that particular painting in place. And we found this one Canadian artist who did a painting that is a bit multimedia, and he’s basically pulling his chest apart… Everything started having all this symbolism to it, where it’s him bearing his soul; it’s the veil; it’s the sexual coffee table that he can put his feet on. All of these things started coming together, and honestly, it was not easy. I was freaking out about colors for the longest time.

Also, in my career, I’ve been very fortunate to have multicultural characters in my stories, in my sets. And this couldn’t be a space that was only going to be for Lestat. I think he would have made it, to a degree, for Louis [Jacob Anderson] as well. So, how does Louis’ persona fit in here? Is this a space that would welcome him? What does his skin tone look like against these colors? All of those little things need to be kept in mind to make the place complete.

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Lestat’s Complicated History Is Woven Into Every Set That Cubillan and His Team Crafted This Season

SM: I know there were a few details this season that you really fought for. You’ve mentioned online that for Lestat’s childhood bedroom, you were adamant about needing the (more expensive) tiled flooring to represent how his family looks down on him like a servant. Were there other elements like that that maybe didn’t make sense to people when you first described them, but you knew they were Lestat?

AC: Yes and no. Rolin gives us an incredible amount of trust, and from the start, he has said “we hire the people that we know are going to tell the story the way that we want.” Some of the details I needed to press for because they felt so incredibly appropriate; others, I got no pushback on. Even when things were getting hectic and the budgets were coming in, Rolin kept saying “Just keep going. You’re designing for Lestat. You’re designing for this character. Keep doing you.” That was incredibly comforting—not that I’m doubting my choices, but more about being the newcomer to this family of people that have lived and breathed these characters for so long. I wanted to do it justice. I wanted to be able to bring a part of myself and what I envision for this character.

In that room [the childhood bedroom], for example, I had a perfect color story for the rafters that we never see. It was all these same dusty colors that I had picked for the chateau; they were the same colors for his modern world. Some of these things you’re going to see, others you’re not. I don’t think that the audience is necessarily going to make that connection, but for me, I felt it was important to have it so I could justify in my head the evolution of the character.

In his room, I’ve mentioned that it’s the period version of the quintessential little boy’s room, but how does that clash with pale pink painted ceilings? It should never look easy. It should never look straightforward. There needed to be a push and pull between two things constantly.

In the Paris apartment, which you get a glimpse of in episode three, we were trying to think of what kind of a place do Lestat and Nicki [Joseph Potter] share in this blissful beginning of their relationship, and how does that space then evolve when Lestat becomes a vampire and has this access to wealth? We wanted it to feel incredibly romantic… Our backstory was that they are squatting in a former aristocrat’s house. They’re in one of these gorgeous apartments in Paris; the owners have been taken to the guillotine, and now this gorgeous architecture exists for two lovers to share in front of the fireplace, and all they need is a mattress on the floor and each other. That’s all they need—and how does that then evolve into the beauty and the wealth that we see later?

Cubillan Personally Tested All the Coffins in The Vampire Lestat and Has Some Questions About the Cuntessa’s Cuddle Etiquette

SM: I could pick your brain all day but I’ll end on a fun question (maybe morbid, but hopefully fun). If you yourself were a vampire and you had to design your own coffin, what kind of details would you want for yourself?

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AC: Oh man, that is a really tough question.

In terms of the morbid thing, I didn’t necessarily find it morbid. I tried all of the coffins that we made. I tried Lestat’s golden coffin; I tried the period coffins you’ll see later. I think there’s something so cocoon-like about them. I kept making this argument about why we see Louis and Armand in season two in the bed. I understand why, due to the lore or back in the day, they’d want to sleep in a coffin, but nowadays, [get] electric shutters and you can sleep in the comfort that you want. But there’s something incredibly safe and quiet about these spaces that I think is regenerative. I sort of grew to understand why Lesat would want to maintain this element of his past, and that’s something that cannot be let go of. It’s sort of a safe space.

As for myself, I wouldn’t go as far as Lestat. It would have to be something a little [Ludwig] Mies van der Rohe, maybe a little Frank Lloyd Wright—in terms of the Mies van der Rohe simplicity of materials, but then the craftsmanship of Frank Lloyd Wright. I think having something that’s really detailed in the wood, in the carving, but can be incredibly modern and simplistic, that would be my ideal. However, it needs to be big. It needs to be a jumbo coffin. I kept thinking to myself, why would he have such a tiny coffin that he can’t bring anyone into? [Laughs] It needs to be at least made for two.

SM: Well, we know that Lestat is fine with an elevator or wherever for that activity, so maybe the coffin is purely for sleep.

AC: Exactly. There’s a scene in season one where Claudia notices that Louis gets up out of his coffin and gets into Lestat’s coffin, and I was like, oh my god, how are they both fitting in there? Like, how? [Laughs] Even if it’s just cuddling, that feels so tight and uncomfortable! So I would want at least a full, if not a double coffin.

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Lestat De Lioncourt’s Portrait – Anne Rice’s The Vampire Lestat – Photo Credit: Photo Credit: Sophie Giraud/AMC

Lestat Might Be a Butterscotch Bitch, But Designing for Him Was an “Absolute Joy”

SM: Great answer, very practical! Thank you so much for speaking with us—we’re big fans of the series and it’s such a thrill to talk about the craftsmanship that went into it.

AC: I want to mention one thing… This show has sort of spoiled me for future shows, simply because of, not just the trust coming from our showrunners and our producers, but because of the collaborative element that I had with both of our cinematographers, every director. Everyone cared so much about the story. Nothing was flippant… There was nothing that felt thrown away. Everything had to be completely meaningful.

Lex and I worked incredibly well together, and [makeup department head] Tami Lane, that evil genius that she is, because everyone had a different piece of Lestat that they kept putting together. As the newcomer to the team, all of a sudden, it just made that character so much more whole, and it made him an absolute joy to design for.

SM: I really do feel that the newcomer perspective aids this season, because we are seeing this reframed version of Lestat. He can’t be the same as we’ve seen, and he’s so special here… But then, I’m a Lestat apologist.

AC: I was always more of a fan of Lestat than I was of Louis and Armand. It seemed so much more fun to be him. And in this, Sam just goes right for the jugular. He bares his soul—and not just his soul, but Lestat’s soul. It was absolutely magnificent to see him on set and not just own every room that he walked into, but emote the hell out of every single line, every single song lyric, every note. He was absolutely heartbreaking in the best way, and I was so happy to be a part of it.

New episodes of The Vampire Lestat drop Sundays on AMC and AMC+.

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Brittney Greer Discusses the Slasher Inspirations Behind ‘Happy Halloween’

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Viewers will sometimes dismiss indie, lower-budget movies, especially slashers, as copies of a copy. However, this was not my reaction to Brittney Greer’s Halloween-themed teen slasher movie Happy Halloween. The film had won Best Feature Film at the Berryville Film Festival and was obviously made with a lot of heart and passion for horror. I was excited to speak with the writer/director to share what I took away from her movie.

Happy Halloween is a thoughtful love letter to the slasher subgenre. This was evident from numerous horror easter eggs, including closing credits in the same style as Scream, bloody messages spilled from the same vein as Urban Legend, and a festive jack-o-lantern-filled set piece tipping its hat to Trick ‘r Treat.

When I asked Greer if slashers were her entry point into the genre, she confirmed this was the case. Her love of color came from her dad showing her Killer Klowns from Outer Space at the age of five or six, but the respect and intrigue came from her mother introducing her to Scream.

“My mom showed me Scream [in 1996]. We rented it on VHS right when it came out and I just remember [there was] something about that mask and they were talking about horror films that I heard my dad talking about, my brother talking about, [and] my mom [talking about]… the stuff that you talk about after watching a scary movie…it was something that was just super impactful.”

How Brittney Greer Gave Happy Halloween Its Own Voice

While classic slashers and 90s teen horror movies are in the DNA of Happy Halloween, it does not at all feel like a fan made recreation of any one of them. It is a melting pot, respectfully borrowing from the slasher canon. Besides the aforementioned easter eggs, the editing style (compliments to editor and DP David M. Watson) and score will feel familiar to horror fans, in a good way. She explained part of the reason she wanted to make this movie was that “[she] wanted more Halloween movies.” I asked her what the challenges were to adding her own voice to an already packed slasher subgenre.

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“There’s only seven stories out there. And it’s what you’re bringing to it [that’s] going to make it different…You’re not going to have anybody create new stories, [but] new things added into it…The heart of it is all going to kind of feel the same. And I think with a lot of horror films, especially slashers, I feel like you have to have some [stereotypical] characters in there because you have a very short period of time to allow your audiences to know who you’re dealing with and who you’re talking to. And with me, with slasher films, I think it’s helpful because there’s been so many fantastic slasher films, that you can [approach it with] who’s going to be my Tatum type character who has so much heart.”

(Kagan, final girl Hadley, Payton, Adam [left to right])

Creating Authentic Teen Characters in an Indie Slasher

Independently produced movies come with certain expectations, such as not being familiar with the cast. However, Greer successfully cast a group of youngsters that authentically come off as good high school friends. The dynamic between two main couples, Kagan, who’s dating final girl Hadley, and the final girl’s BFF Payton with Adam, didn’t take much screen time to understand they are close friends who rely on each other.

Reimagining the Final Girl Through Hadley’s Trauma

The new element I was excited to see in Happy Halloween was the final girl Hadley (Emma Reinagel), who had already been through her own horror movie, and we are now getting caught up with her. I have honestly always wanted to see this in a non-sequel slasher. Proving further that Greer is tapped into the slasher fan’s psyche.

“First off, thank you for saying that. That was definitely the intention behind it. It’s just one of those things, again, being a horror movie fan… you see these people and these horrific things happen to them, and you get sequels, and that’s honestly where it came from. [In] sequels, there are no scars. You’d have mental scars. You’d probably be on medications….I’m not a huge fan of the Rob Zombie Halloween movies, but in the sequel, we see Laurie who is scarred up, and she is very broken…I’ve always wondered why we do not see these people with scars… Or why are they not in therapy? [It was something] I wanted to see with Happy Halloween. So when I was writing it, I was thinking, what gets this girl back into this town? What can we do that gets her back here? What could have happened to her?… [Her] character that comes back [is] very much not who these people remember [and] she’s coming back into the mix [with] this friend group.”

Where to Watch Happy Halloween and Hear the Full Brittney Greer Interview

I had a ball picking out the horror homages and getting to nerd out with Brittney. You can find Happy Halloween (2024) on VOD anywhere you digitally rent your horror movies. You can also check out my full interview with Brittney Greer on my podcast Autopsy of a Horror Movie anywhere you find podcasts.

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